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John Edward NEAME

John Edward NEAME

Male 1826 - 1901  (75 years)


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  • Name John Edward NEAME 
    Birth 1826  Birchington-on-sea, Thanet, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Immigration 1849  Otago, New Zealand Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Occupation 1849  Thanet, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Census 16 Jul 1853  Nelson, New Zealand Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Occupation 1859-1861  Collingwood, Nelson, New Zealand Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Occupation 1880  Caversham, Dundedin, New Zealand Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Death 5 May 1901  The Benevolent, Caversham, Dunedin, New Zealand Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3] 
    Age 75 years 
    Burial 8 May 1901  Dunedin Northern Cemetery, Dunedin, New Zealand Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 4] 
    Patriarch & Matriarch
    John NEAME,   b. 1666, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 29 Jul 1732, Thanet, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 66 years)  (2 x Great Grandfather) 
    Sarah SAUNDERS,   b. 23 Apr 1808, Chislet, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 7 Mar 1886, South West London, England - 75 Stockwell Park Road Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 77 years)  (Mother) 
    Person ID I292  Gardiner
    Last Modified 23 May 2023 

    Father John NEAME,   b. 21 Sep 1790, Birchington-on-sea, Thanet, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 24 Feb 1855, Margate, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 64 years) 
    Mother Sarah SAUNDERS,   b. 23 Apr 1808, Chislet, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 7 Mar 1886, South West London, England - 75 Stockwell Park Road Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 77 years) 
    Marriage 19 Nov 1834  Lambeth, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • Saint John The Evangelist
    Age at Marriage John was 44 years and 2 months - Sarah was 26 years and 7 months. (Were Married 20 years and 3 months). 
    Siblings 2 brothers and 1 sister 
    Family ID F101  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Sarah PAVEY,   b. 1829, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 31 Mar 1854, Nelson, New Zealand Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 25 years) 
    Marriage 8 Aug 1849  St Pauls, Deptford, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [5] 
    Age at Marriage John was ~ 23 years and 8 months - Sarah was ~ 20 years and 8 months. (Were Married 4 years and 7 months). 
    Notes 
    • Research seems to show two more siblings. A Helen Mary Neame and a James Neame.
      James is thought to be born in 1854. There are no New Zealand birth records for a James in 1854.
      Helen is though to have been born at the same time (1852) as Jessie Sarah Neame or maybe the year after.
      I have not found any records for a Helen Neame in marriage or death. So far electoral rolls have no shown a Helen Neame.
      There is no given names on the birth record for 1852, the year that Jessie Sarah Neame used throughout her life.
      In the absence of historic records for Helen, I would tend to believe that Helen didn't exist or Helen was Jessie Sarah Neame.

      This timeline might be a clue to her life growing up:
      1854: Jessie Sarah Neame was only 15 months old when her mother died.
      1855: John Edward Neame (Jessie Sarah's father) married Rebecca Lyne. Jessie was now 2 and half years.
      1867: Jessie now had 6 half brothers and sisters. She was now 14 years and 4 months.
      1867: Jessie Sarah's step mother was committed to an asylum and he father (John Edward Neame) left for the Gold Field on the West Coast.
      1869: Jessie Sarah Neame arrived in Melbourne Australia at the age of 16 years and 6 months. Arriving from Plymouth and it seems was traveling alone.
      1871: Jessie Sarah Neame married Gustav Wilhelm Hillbrich. she was 18 and a half years.

      It is assumed that some stage Jessie Sarah left New Zealand and went to England. It could have been to visit relatives. It could have been just to get away from a her life in New Zealand. It is odd that Jessie Sarah Neame went to Melbourne Australia instead of returning to New Zealand.
    Children 
    +01. Male John Edward NEAME,   b. 30 Jul 1849, Deptford, Kent, England - 11 Crossfield Lane Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 3 Oct 1906, Blenheim, Marlborough, New Zealand Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 57 years)
    ▻ Matilda Jane LODGE  m. 26 Feb 1870;   Maria PEEL  m. 1893
    +02. Female Jessie Sarah NEAME,   b. 11 Dec 1852, Nelson, New Zealand Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 18 Oct 1927, North Perth, Western Australia, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 74 years)
    ▻ Gustav Wilhelm HILLBRICH  m. 4 Jul 1871
    Family ID F100  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 5 Jun 2023 

    Family 2 Harriet Rebecca LYNE,   b. 23 Jun 1833, Westbourne, West Sussex, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1 Jul 1885, Nelson Lunatic Asylum, Nelson, New Zealand Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 52 years) 
    Marriage 2 Jun 1855  Waimea East, Nelson, New Zealand Find all individuals with events at this location  [6] 
    Age at Marriage John was ~ 29 years and 6 months - Harriet was 22 years. (Were Married less than 16 years). 
    Children 
     01. Male Francis NEAME,   b. 1856, Nelson, New Zealand Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 6 Jun 1932, Kumara, Westland, West Coast, New Zealand Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 76 years)
     02. Male Percy Augustus NEAME,   b. 3 Jun 1858, Nelson, New Zealand Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 26 Oct 1928, Mahau, Pelorous Sound, Marlborough, New Zealand Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 70 years)
     03. Female Emma Susan NEAME,   b. 14 Mar 1860, Collingwood, Nelson, New Zealand Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 28 Dec 1903, Murchison, Tasman District, Tasman, New Zealand Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 43 years)
    ▻ Alfred GIBBS  m. 30 Nov 1881
     04. Male Frederick NEAME,   b. 1 Feb 1862, Collingwood, Nelson, New Zealand Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 12 Dec 1942, Palmerston North, Manawatu-Wanganui, New Zealand Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 80 years)
     05. Male Edward Joseph NEAME,   b. 1864, Collingwood, Nelson, New Zealand Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 8 Dec 1921, Westport, West Coast, New Zealand Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 57 years)
     06. Male Walter Ethelbert NEAME,   b. 9 Apr 1867, Golden Gully, Aorere, Tasman, New Zealand Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 7 Jul 1906, Lyell Buller, West Coast, New Zealand Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 39 years)
    Family ID F104  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 26 May 2023 

    Family 3 Mary GREIG,   b. 1846, Saline, Fifeshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 16 Aug 1906, Dunedin, Otago, New Zealand Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 60 years) 
    Other Partners: James SINCLAIR  m. 1865 
    Marriage 6 Jun 1871  Knox Church, Dunedin, New Zealnd Find all individuals with events at this location  [7] 
    Age at Marriage John was ~ 45 years and 6 months - Mary was ~ 25 years and 6 months. (Were Married 29 years and 11 months). 
    Children 
     01. Female Isabella NEAME,   b. 1871, New Zealand Find all individuals with events at this location
     02. Male Peter NEAME,   b. 1874
     03. Male James Sinclair NEAME,   b. 1875
     04. Male Percy John NEAME,   b. 1893
    ▻ Alice Elizabeth PENNY  m. 1914
    Family ID F105  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Other Spouse James SINCLAIR
    m. 1865, New Zealand Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F252  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 21 May 2023 

  • Event Map Click to display
    Link to Google MapsBirth - 1826 - Birchington-on-sea, Thanet, Kent, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Chemist or Surgeon: Sometimes known as "Doc Neame", he seems to have had some medical training before emigrating, but no evidence that he actually qualified as a doctor. - 1849 - Thanet, Kent, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarriage - 8 Aug 1849 - St Pauls, Deptford, Kent, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - Source: Electoral Roll for the Province of Nelson. Town of Nelson. 1853-1858 - Neame, John, Selwyn Place, Clerk, Householder - 16 Jul 1853 - Nelson, New Zealand Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Headmaster of the Collingwood School, New Zealand - 1859-1861 - Collingwood, Nelson, New Zealand Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarriage - 6 Jun 1871 - Knox Church, Dunedin, New Zealnd Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBurial - 8 May 1901 - Dunedin Northern Cemetery, Dunedin, New Zealand Link to Google Earth
     = Link to Google Earth 
    Pin Legend  : Address       : Location       : City/Town       : County/Shire       : State/Province       : Country       : Not Set

  • Photos
    St. Pauls Parish Deptford England    		St. Pauls Parish Deptford England
    John Edward Neame and Sarah Pavey married here on 8 Aug 1849

    Documents
    John Neame & Sarah Pavey Marriage Certificate 1849    		John Neame & Sarah Pavey Marriage Certificate 1849
    Copy John Neame and Sarah Pavey marriage certificate. Married in the Parish Church St Paul Deptford, England.
    Passenger List from 'Pekin' 1849    		Passenger List from "Pekin" 1849
    9 Aug 1849 to 5 Dec 1849: Ship "Pekin", Whitby, from London, with 116 passengers, chiefly for Nelson.

    Headstones
    John Edward Neame (1826-1901)    		John Edward Neame (1826-1901)
    Buried with his third wife Mary (Grieg) Neame
    Plot: Block 33. Plot 24

    Newspapers
    Harriet Jane Lodge Lunacy Charge (1867)    		Harriet Jane Lodge Lunacy Charge (1867)
    Fire in Neame's Chemist (1880)    		Fire in Neame's Chemist (1880)
    DUNEDIN. Sept 16.
    A fire occurred at Caversham last night, and totally destroyed a ten-roomed house which was occupied by Neame, chemist, McIntosh, dealer, and two other families. The fire started in Neame's shop, from which nothing was saved. A good deal was saved from Mclntosh's. Neame is insured for £250 in the National, and Mclntosh in the South British for £50. The building belonged to Hocken and Hardy, and insured in the Standard for £500, and New Zealand for £200. A fire occurred at Neame's a few months ago.
    Sept 17.
    The fire at Caversham is supposed to have originated through the bursting of a kerosene lamp, Neame estimates his loss at £500. Mr Murray, M.H.R. for Bruce, addressed his constituents at Milton, and received an unanimous vote of thanks.

    Source: Wanganui Herald, Volume XIV, Issue 3949, 17 September 1880, Page 2

  • Notes 
    • John married Sarah Pavey on 8 August 1849 at Deptford. The following day John, Sarah and their 10-day old son set sail for New Zealand aboard the 'Pekin'. The 'Pekin' arrived at Wellington on 26 December before going on to Nelson on 31 December 1849. They are thought to have had two or three more children after settling in the Nelson region.

      He was at one time the Headmaster of the Collingwood School in 1859-61. He was later a chemist in Dunedin. Sometimes known as "Doc Neame", he seems to have had some medical training before emigrating, but no evidence that he actually qualified as a doctor.

      He lived in Dunedin until his death on 5 May 1901, aged 74, and is buried in the Northern Cemetery, Dunedin with his 3rd wife Mary in the Greig family plot.

      When died: 5 May 1901 Where died: Benevolent Caversham Names: John Neame Profession: Chemist - Sex and Age: Male 75 years - Causes of Death: Paralysis and pneumonia - Medical attendant by whom certified and date last seem alive: J O Closs MD - Parents Father: John Neame - Mother: Sarah Neame - Profession of Father: Surgeon. When and where buried: 8 May 1901 Northern Cemetery Dunedin - Where born: Kent, England How long in NZ: 50 years - If Married Where: A. Kent England at age 22 to Sarah Pavey - B. Dunedin Otago age 45 to Mary Greig. Ages and sex of living issues: M. A. 50, 46. B. 27, 25, 23, 8. F. A. 48 B. 29, 18 Certified to be a true copy of the above particulars included in an entry of death in the records of the Registrar-General's office. Given under the seal of the Register-General at Wellington, the 13 day of June 1977.

      Source: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Neame-69
    • Sailed for NZ from Deal Kent, for Wellington, 9 Aug. 1849 at 9.00 p.m. on the 'Pekin'. Landed safely in Jan 1850 (Passenger Resgister) all well and in good spirit. May have trained as a doctor in the U.K., but did not complete his training.

      Was the Headmaster of Collingwood School in 1859.
      There is a photo of the school and the headmaster's house, and mention of his name on page 20 of a book ;"Collingwood To The Heaphy Track" by Carol Dawber , Published by River Press, Picton, New Zealand, 2000.

      He was married to Harriet Rebecca Lyne at this time. The date fits with the births of three of their children in Collingwood (Emma 1860, Frederick 1862, Joseph 1864)

      Died of paralysis and pneumonia at the Benevolent, Caversham, Dunedin, NZ
      Source: http://www.neamefamily.com/tree/getperson.php?personID=I2671&tree=neame
    • Otago Daily Times, Issue 6510, 23 December 1882, Page 2
      NEW INSOLVENTS
      John Neame, South Dunedin, Chemist. - Debts, £71 16s 8d : Assets, £17.
      Source: https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ODT18821223.2.20

  • Sources 
    1. [S5] Online Source (URL), http://www.dunedin.govt.nz/facilities/cemeteries/cemeteries_search (Reliability: 3).
      Original reference:- N19010510

    2. [S5] Online Source (URL), 15 May 2023, https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/193231798/john-edward-neame (Reliability: 2).
      Birth: 1826 - Birchington, Thanet District, Kent, England
      Death: 5 May 1901 (aged 74–75) - Caversham, Dunedin City, Otago, New Zealand
      Burial: Northern Cemetery, Dunedin, Dunedin City, Otago, New Zealand
      Plot: Block 33. Plot 24
      Memorial ID: 193231798

    3. [S5] Online Source (URL), 20 May 2023, https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/ (Reliability: 2).
      Death
      Registration number: 1901/1908 : 75 Years

    4. [S5] Online Source (URL), http://www.dunedin.govt.nz/facilities/cemeteries/cemeteries_search (Reliability: 3).
      Block 33. Plot 24
      Original reference:- N19010510

    5. [S3] Original Copy, 31 May 2012 (Reliability: 3).
      Certified copy of an entry of marriage.

    6. [S5] Online Source (URL), 1 Mar 2023, https://bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/ (Reliability: 2).
      Marriage
      Registration number: 1855/43

    7. [S5] Online Source (URL), 1 Mar 2023, https://bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/ (Reliability: 2).
      Marriage
      Registration number: 1871/6096
      Second marriage under surname of Sinclair


 

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